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Survived Eurofurence.
Sun Sep 14, 2008, 11:31 PM
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Survived Eurofurence.
Not staying long, just going to type this in summary before resuming my hiatus from the fandom in general. This is from a traveller's point of view, furry value may be negligeble

There are a few cons within the European nations that malaysians can go to thanks to not needing a visa. I decided to try EF for the heck of it, my job pays me well enough to afford it.

It was an okay experience, a little cold, and generally pleasant. European furries are more polite and 'normal' than mainstream portayal, friendly people, lots more fursuiters than I initially imagined with lots of professionally made costumes, and more diverse crowd. Most importantly, they respect your personal space. No scritchpiles, no public lewdness, no random groping.

Talking to people there opens you up to a side that gives a little more hope to a polluted, and frankly, farced up fandom. They're very average folks who really just want to have fun, which includes a British film critic I met on the train back to Nuremberg, with the same interest or budding curiosity.

Eurofurence also had a charitable side, special artshow bits went to fox rescues this year.

If you're an artist, the Artists Lounge is the highlight of the event where there're no walls of fame blocking anyone, you can sit down, approach your fave artist and talk. Many will oblige to sketchbook doodling.



There are its drawbacks if it's your first time. Language shock, but most Germans under 30 would speak some speck of English. High cost of living, everything there is expensive. Basic amenities, no airconditioning or temperature control, no kettle, town is a 5 minute drive downhill at its current venue. It's literally a lodge vacation.

I'll probably go back next year as an artistic pilgrimage of sorts.

I'd sum it up in this: Leave the country for a bit.

Furry is not limited to the USA, it's not impossible to go broaden your perspective, gain some fresh insights and experiences.
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Mon Sep 15, 2008, 06:31 PM (This post was last modified: Mon Sep 15, 2008 06:35 PM by Canis Enigmas.)
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RE: Survived Eurofurence.
Good to hear that language wouldn't be too big of a barrier. Now its just that other major barrier.
How much did the whole trip cost?
Last I checked: return flight tickets (to Munich) were going for RM 6K (US$1,736.50) each. If anyone were to take up on this, they had better stay for a week or two to make the most of the flight costs. With oil falling back below US$100 right now, maybe (and that's a big maybe) flight fares might reduce in the near future.

With Germans being as they are, I was also slightly pessimistic that Eurofurence would be as friendly and open as Canadian/US counterparts. Guess the "furry" aspect does break cultural & social norms.

Anyway, congrats your trip to the father-land and completing a "furry-Mecca".

PS: You did at least take a swig or two of "veis-beer" there,right? That's some good shit from Germany you shouldn't miss.
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Sat Sep 27, 2008, 11:48 PM
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(Mon Sep 15, 2008 06:31 PM)Canis Enigmas Wrote:  PS: You did at least take a swig or two of "veis-beer" there,right? That's some good shit from Germany you shouldn't miss.

Or just hope that one day, EF and Octoberfest suddenly collide together. Like that Hell-drone thing.

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Sun Sep 28, 2008, 01:21 AM (This post was last modified: Sun Sep 28, 2008 01:23 AM by Canis Enigmas.)
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(Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:48 PM)Hollud Wrote:  Or just hope that one day, EF and Octoberfest suddenly collide together. Like that Hell-drone thing.
My uncle, who's a German born and bred, advised that Oktoberfest isn't all that great except for its size. Its become too commercialised, too crowded, contaminated with shady activities (drugs etc.), too many cultures mixed in and lost focus of its own culture and history.

If you want to experience true German festival, you have to attend the smaller "village fests" that occur all around Germany in the towns and villages all during Spring and Summer. I've been to one while I was in Germany before and I have to agree with him. Although it's not even 1/10 the size of its larger rival, it is a lot better, the area is cleaner, safer and more orderly. The atmosphere is less of a drunkard's drinking fest and more of family fun carnival. Most importantly the beer is much "purer" and tastier. Whereas Oktoberfest's beer (occording to my uncle) tastes like a cheaply made "mass production" beer, the ones at these village fests are brewed specially by their nearby breweries for this annual occasion and it does show in the taste: that little bit more "special".
The only downside is maybe the language would be limited to Deutch and not many would understand English, so you'll need some local friends to help you out.
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Tue Jun 16, 2009, 08:59 PM
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I so want to go for 2010's con. Don't know if the airfares would shoot up again, as oil prices is climbing again. Right now a return ticket to Frankfurt costs almost RM4k.

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Wed Jun 17, 2009, 01:38 AM
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(Tue Jun 16, 2009 08:59 PM)ytg Wrote:  I so want to go for 2010's con. Don't know if the airfares would shoot up again, as oil prices is climbing again. Right now a return ticket to Frankfurt costs almost RM4k.
However a round-ticket trip to London costs around RM1,600 through AirAsia. London to Cologne costs as low as RM61 a ticket, and reaching Frankfurt should just be a bus ride away. Theoretically speaking it's not the most convenient mode of travel, but it certainly is the cheapest.

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Wed Jun 17, 2009, 01:52 AM
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I would.... a but then there is so many reality TV shows now a days that i gat fed up watching them.... even if they were my own....

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Wed Jun 17, 2009, 03:37 PM
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(Wed Jun 17, 2009 01:38 AM)Delta-HT Wrote:  Anybody interested in having your own personal edition of The Amazing Race? Big smile
No, but I would like a Top Gear Race between a plane, a boat, a train and me in a Bugatti tearing from Russia to Europe Big smile
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Wed Jun 17, 2009, 09:10 PM
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Love those outrageous races.

Is it still legal to drive while wearing a fursuit, or a halfsuit?

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Sun Jul 05, 2009, 01:17 AM (This post was last modified: Sun Jul 05, 2009 01:24 AM by loupgarou.)
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(Tue Jun 16, 2009 08:59 PM)Tigerbomb Wrote:  I so want to go for 2010's con. Don't know if the airfares would shoot up again, as oil prices is climbing again. Right now a return ticket to Frankfurt costs almost RM4k.

It is closer to RM6000, and I had a 'discounted' direct deal with Lufthansa.

If I get a good-paying job again I'm considering going back in 2010 but as an extension to an initial tour. For that same amount I can go around Berlin for 10 days, afterwards I'd just pack my bags, get on the train and head to Suhl. Everything's covered on the Berlin tour and I only need to put aside a bit more for EF.

Or, and I'm assuming such an option exists, there might be a group discount for a band of a dozen or so people travelling together to the same destination. If AA decides to organise a group travel to EF on cheaper rates, count me in. I have visiting experience, won't be as culture-shocked and have a chance to use my broken Deutsch.



Or, if it's still around, there's RBW in UK.
won't be as big, next year is only its third operation and living costs there is higher than Europe.

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